Podcast: How HR practitioners can become cultural leaders


Dulux’s Executive General Manager of People, Culture and Change, Siobhan McHale, offers practical advice to help HR practitioners lead impactful culture change in their organisations in line with broader business objectives.

When organisations are faced with crippling, complex and seemingly unsolvable culture challenges, they often put sole responsibility on the HR team to ‘fix’ the problem. But this rarely works because you can’t outsource culture to a single function in the business – it needs to be deeply embedded into all of your business practices.HR practitioners aren’t the keepers of culture – they are the culture leaders and enablers. They set the scene and provide leaders and managers with the tools they’ll need to help their teams live out the organisational values in an authentic and impactful way.

In this episode of Let’s Take This Offline, Siobhan McHale, Executive General Manager of People, Culture and Change at Dulux and speaker at this year’s AHRI National Convention and Exhibition, offers a range of practical frameworks to help HR practitioners reframe their role from ‘business partner’ to ‘business leader’ and offers advice to help HR have a greater impact at an executive level when it comes to driving culture transformation projects.

Skip to the section that interests you most:

  • 5:37 minutes: How to get buy-in for culture change without having to take ownership of it
  • 8:00 minutes: McHale explains the difference between a culture disruptor and a culture leader.
  • 15:15 minutes: Tips to help identify patterns in your culture.
  • 20:17 minutes: Advice on how to look at culture from a commercial perspective.
  • 30:00 minutes: The difference between emotional intelligence and group intelligence.
  • 35:33 minutes: How to get change resistant people over the line.
  • 40:55 minutes: McHale responds to a made-up scenario about a CEO whose too focussed on short-term results to focus on long-term culture impacts.

Check out the episode transcript here.

Extra resources:

For more conversations to inspire HR, listen to season one of Let’s Take This Offline here.

If you’d like further information and resources to help put McHale’s insights into action, check out the links below:

🧠 Learning opportunities

📚 Further reading

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Subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can follow the podcast on Spotify, Soundcloud or Apple Podcasts. AHRI members receive exclusive bonus content via the LinkedIn AHRI Lounge.

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Podcast: How HR practitioners can become cultural leaders


Dulux’s Executive General Manager of People, Culture and Change, Siobhan McHale, offers practical advice to help HR practitioners lead impactful culture change in their organisations in line with broader business objectives.

When organisations are faced with crippling, complex and seemingly unsolvable culture challenges, they often put sole responsibility on the HR team to ‘fix’ the problem. But this rarely works because you can’t outsource culture to a single function in the business – it needs to be deeply embedded into all of your business practices.HR practitioners aren’t the keepers of culture – they are the culture leaders and enablers. They set the scene and provide leaders and managers with the tools they’ll need to help their teams live out the organisational values in an authentic and impactful way.

In this episode of Let’s Take This Offline, Siobhan McHale, Executive General Manager of People, Culture and Change at Dulux and speaker at this year’s AHRI National Convention and Exhibition, offers a range of practical frameworks to help HR practitioners reframe their role from ‘business partner’ to ‘business leader’ and offers advice to help HR have a greater impact at an executive level when it comes to driving culture transformation projects.

Skip to the section that interests you most:

  • 5:37 minutes: How to get buy-in for culture change without having to take ownership of it
  • 8:00 minutes: McHale explains the difference between a culture disruptor and a culture leader.
  • 15:15 minutes: Tips to help identify patterns in your culture.
  • 20:17 minutes: Advice on how to look at culture from a commercial perspective.
  • 30:00 minutes: The difference between emotional intelligence and group intelligence.
  • 35:33 minutes: How to get change resistant people over the line.
  • 40:55 minutes: McHale responds to a made-up scenario about a CEO whose too focussed on short-term results to focus on long-term culture impacts.

Check out the episode transcript here.

Extra resources:

For more conversations to inspire HR, listen to season one of Let’s Take This Offline here.

If you’d like further information and resources to help put McHale’s insights into action, check out the links below:

🧠 Learning opportunities

📚 Further reading

⭐ Member-exclusive content

🤳 Connect with us

Subscribe so you never miss an episode. You can follow the podcast on Spotify, Soundcloud or Apple Podcasts. AHRI members receive exclusive bonus content via the LinkedIn AHRI Lounge.

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